Thursday, January 6, 2011

The Hall of Fame continues its march toward irrelevance


Even by the Hall of Fame's increasingly low standards, yesterday's vote was a joke. Let's start with the only two position players to be elected: Roberto Alomar and Bert Blyleven. Each of their histories with the Hall is a testament to the multitude of problems with elections.

Bert Blyleven would have signed a $150 million contract had he played today. Over 22 seasons in the big leagues he pitched to a 3.31 career ERA (118 ERA+), a 1.198 WHIP, striking out 3,701 batters and accumulating 60 shutouts in the process (SIXTY!). He was also a phenomenal innings eater, pitching at least 270 innings in eight different seasons. Baseball Reference estimates that over his entire career he was worth 90.1 bWAR, good for 13th all time -- better than Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan and Steve Carlton, just to name a few.

The problem is not that Blyleven was elected to the Hall of Fame. The problem is that a player who may have been one of the ten to fifteen best pitchers ever had to wait fourteen seasons to be elected to the Hall of Fame. Fourteen! The dude threw 60 shutouts, good for ninth all time, and it took fourteen years for him to make it to the Hall of Fame. Peruse the all-time shutout leaders. Of the top 25, only two were not in the Hall of Fame yesterday. Blyleven, and Luis Tiant. All the others are in the museum.

As far as anyone can tell, the only reason Blyleven wasn't elected to the Hall of Fame years ago is because he won "only" 287 games. There is no need for me to explain why this is nuts when Fire Joe Morgan can do it for me:
"I just can't bring myself to do this again. Look at Blyleven's best ERA+ and WHIP seasons, his Ks, his shutout totals, his 15 seasons of 200+ Ks (Morris had 3), his postseason record, whatever you want. Then consider that if the teams he played for, or their bullpens, were just very slightly better, like 1% better, he would have won 300 games instead of 287 and no one would ever for one second consider not voting for him. Do you realize that? If he had won 300 games, he would have been a first-ballot guy. People would have said, "300 wins, 5th all-time in Ks, 13th in innings, awesome postseason pitcher -- he's a lock!" Instead, he has 287 wins and people fall all over themselves telling you why he is not in any way a HOFer. It's insane."
My sentiments exactly. It is a crying shame that it took fourteen years for the Hall to honor this guy.

Which, of course, brings us to Roberto Alomar. (One of the real pleasures of this year's ballot is that it offers brilliant examples of each of the different critical flaws with how people are enshrined.) Along with Blyleven, Alomar is also an obvious Hall-of-Famer. By all measures his defense as a second baseman was excellent (no, the ten Gold Gloves mean nothing to me) while accumulating a 116 OPS+ and a .371 career OBP at a position where offense is at a premium. His resume isn't as strong as Blyleven's, but it is solid. Of course he was elected in his second season with 90% of the vote, compared to Blyleven's 80%.

That injustice isn't the problem with Alomar's election. The change in vote totals that he got between his first and second season is. Last year Alomar just missed getting into the Hall with 73.7% of the vote (75% earns enshrinement). This year his vote totals jumped up tremendously. Who are these people who changed their minds about him in just one season, and why are they allowed to vote on the Hall of Fame?

It would be one thing if Alomar went from 74% of the vote to 77% of the vote. That would suggest that he had a high floor of support, and the year of additional consideration was enough to sway the few marginal voters that he needed to earn election. His jump to 90%, however, just demonstrates how unprincipled the voting is. It says that a large, large proportion of voters were certain all along that he belonged in the Hall of Fame, just not on the first ballot. This makes sense ... how? A lot happened in the last 365 days, probably a lot happened to Roberto Alomar. None of it took place on the baseball diamond.

Finally, Jeff Bagwell got only 41.7% of the vote, in his first year of eligibility. Now personally I can't stand Bagwell. I never could. There is no reason for this. There are just some players I don't like and others I do. I divulge this only so it is clear that in my opinion as a student of baseball Jeff Bagwell is an obvious Hall of Famer. In playing time limited due to injury he amassed a 149 OPS+ (Alex Rodriguez? 145), 449 home runs, a career .408 OBP and 79.9 bWAR, better than Pete Rose, Reggie Jackson and Paul Molitor. Once again, this guy is an obvious Hall-of-Famer, never mind a player who deserved well more than 50% of the vote.

Bagwell's failure to get a sizable number of Hall of Fame votes, however, is different from the other examples for the unfortunate precedent it sets. Unlike Blyleven, who wasn't elected right away because writers are idiots, or Alomar, who wasn't elected in his first year of eligibility because he is an idiot, as far as anyone can tell Bagwell got few votes because he is rumored to have taken steroids.

Unlike Mark McGwire or Rafael Palmeiro, both of whom were also kept out of the Hall of Fame despite their achievements, Bagwell never admitted to taking steroids nor did he fail a test. The Mitchell Report didn't out him either. Bagwell's inclusion in the steroids scandal is entirely hearsay. There is virtually no evidence suggesting he took steroids, let alone proving it, apart from his physical appearance and the era in which he played.

Bagwell's omission from the Hall of Fame (and, yes, his career was first-ballot quality) suggests that many deserving players from the so-called "Steroids Era" will be kept out of the Hall only due to the era in which they played. At best they will be made to wait, the way Blyleven was. This is bad for baseball. Throughout its history baseball has forgiven myriad truly horrible sins. By comparison to some other misdeeds than have received clemency, steroid abuse is mild.

Baseball needs to address its head-in-the-sand unwritten policy regarding steroids. The alternative is the gradual march toward irrelevance for its highest honor. There is a predictable, nearby future when players greater than Bagwell will not be in the Hall of Fame, including Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds and Alex Rodriguez. Fans such as myself won't forget how great these players were. I hope one day to share my passion for this game with my children. If many of the greatest players I grew up watching are not in the Hall of Fame why should I teach them that the honor is important?

20 comments:

  1. Blyleven's career was similar to nolan ryan's. Mediocre wl record, good but not great era, and never won a CY award. Blyleven was underrated and ryan the most overrated player in history. Both are now rightly in the HOF but are not in the league with seaver or clemens or johnson.

    The Bagman belongs in the hall for sure. Maybe as good a 1b as gehrig. A great hitter (though not as good as gehrig) but a better fielder than lou.

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  2. Blyleven got the shaft for fourteen years. Had he played for better teams he easily could have won 15 to 20 more games, and, as Fire Joe Morgan rightly pointed out, would have been elected to the Hall on his first ballot. All this makes my head hurt.

    Bagwell belongs in the Hall of Fame on the strength of his numbers (as do Palmeiro and McGwire) but I have to politely disagree when comparisons to Lou Gehrig are made. Gehrig is 4th All Time in OPS+ at 178. Only Ruth, Ted Williams and Bonds are better. The difference between the two players offensively was vast, which is saying something because Bagwell's OPS+ puts him the Mays, Aaron, A-Rod category.

    Either way, it will be a happy day for me if the Hall of Fame ever fixes its terribly broken voting policy.

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  3. The definition of great is getting diminished over time. Consider these facts. Only 1 out of every 6 sportswriters who covered baseball on a daily basis thought Blyleven was great, in his first few years of HOF eligibility. Forget (his only 2) All-Star appearances, in 22 seasons he was one of the top 10 AL pitchers in Cy Young voting only 4 times. That's greatness? Forget a few bad teams... he was one of the Top 10 in LOSSES a full NINE TIMES. (Steve Carlton played on a lot of bad teams, too.) btw, Blyleven allowed FIFTY HRs one year. And 46 another. That he got in now is more an indictment of the value placed on stats alone. Playing a lot of years doesn't make you great, it means you were healthy. Is Mike Morgan going to get this kind of consideration? He played for a lot of bad teams for 22 years too. And FYI, Jack Morris' numbers weren't even as good overall as Blyleven's. They deserve to be the Hall of Very Good.

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  4. I agree 100% that Blyleven should have been a first ballot HOF, but I think a one year penalty for Alomar's disgusting spitting episode was appropriate. It sends an appropriate and long overdue message to players that inappropriate conduct is unacceptable, even if your a premiere player.

    Look at the NFL today. There are men playing in the NFL who have molested women on party boats, been an accessory in a murder, a receiver who’s called his QB a fag and berated teammates and coaches during games, a QB who seems to be a serial rapist or, at least, a serial molester; and another QB who derived great enjoyment from brutally killing dogs (a trait shared by virtually all serial killers, by the way).

    I have no problem with these men making millions upon millions of dollars: I wouldn’t turn that money down, either. But I rightly expect these pampered and privileged men to act like Human Beings, instead of animals.

    Playing professional sports (especially the big three in this country) is a lucrative business: it’s a rare privilege to make the kind of money these men get to make, and so playing in MLB, the NFL, and NBA should be treated as a privilege, not an entitlement. It’s not like other jobs.

    99% of people can’t retire (handsomely, no less) on what they make in a 5-10 year period. Most people can’t even retire handsomely on what they make in a lifetime. But star and premium players can easily do that, so, yes, it is right to apply a different set of rules to these players when they grievously violate the moral standards of society. (I’m not talking about steroid abuse and victimless crimes here, only serious crimes.)

    I realize Alomar’s inappropriate conduct doesn’t compare to the items I cited above. Alomar deserves to be in the HOF and I have no problem with him going in on his second chance. But I applaud the writers for letting current and future MLB players know that inappropriate conduct will not be tolerated; there will be penalties for inappropriate conduct. Bravo! It’s about time!

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  5. I'm with you, Mike - but I'll take it a step further and say it's irrelevant already. I think I've mentioned it in the past, but I'll say it again - I can't get over the idea that Roger Maris isn't in the hall of fame.

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  6. Awesome article man. Couldn't have said it better myself. As a fan of the game and an actual Bagwell fan, I can truly see you actually understand the concept of what a good player is. Why can't the Hall let you vote for everyone?

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  7. Well said!!!!!!!
    Just to change the names.....Larry Walker was overlooked because voters (and others) said he played in Coors field. Does this mean that anyone that played in Coors is to be excluded from the Hall?
    What about Yankee Stadium short porch, Ebbett's Field (Duke Snider), Fenway?

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  8. Mike, I love you buddy but I think some of your argument here is way off base. Even if someone is a Hall of Famer, I see no problem with preserving something "special" about first ballot inductees. If I'm a Hall voter, I want to take the time to really consider a candidate. If I'm not 100% convinced he's a shoe-in, why not put it off for a year to let it simmer? Alomar didn't collect 3,000 hits. He never won an MVP. Is he a deserving candidate? sure. But I don't think there was any grave injustice to keeping him out of first ballot status.

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  9. Larry mentioned that I was leaving my flank open on the Alomar analysis.

    I recognize the value of first ballot versus not first ballot hall of famers, I'm just surprised at how high Alomar's support jumped up. I may be guilty of confirmation bias, but this reinforced my belief that the voting is unprincipled because so many writers changed their minds so quickly.

    With respect to Blyleven, his surge of support comes from baseball fans who reject wins and losses as a meaningful stat to evaluate pitchers, fans like me. Without his win-loss record Blyleven is one of the best pitchers of all time. If you are a fan who feels that wins and losses are still valuable then Blyleven's candidacy diminishes considerably.

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  10. Good article - the Hall of Fame has really created a mess for itself in my opinion - the very, very best should be in with not much debate - truly dominant careers should not be so hard to distinguish for these so called experts. For me I want to see a great player on both sides of the ball - offense and defense - and lets take it from there - unless you are completely amazing on one side of the ball

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  11. I'm not so sure Alomar deserved induction. Which has to do with not having enough great seasons, not the spitting incident. But I'm not getting upset over him getting in.

    I think the main reason he didn't get in the first time around is that there are some guys who will simply NOT vote for a player in his first year, in order to give their votes to players who've been unfairly denied. The problem there is that this very act denies the deserving and newly-eligible. There's no limit on inductees, as there is for the Pro Football Hall (7): You can vote for as many as you want, or at least as many as are on the ballot. If you think Kevin Brown deserves it, and you're THAT much of an idiot, you can vote for him.

    And I think I know why you don't like Bagwell: Because he's from New England and you're a Yankee Fan. Well, I'm a Yankee Fan, but I don't see him as a New Englander. I see him as a New Englander that the Red Sox had and, as they so often do, stupidly let get away (even if Larry Andersen did sort of make the difference for the 1990 AL East title).

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  12. Here's the thing on Blyleven...it's the Hall of Fame not the Hall of Stats.

    Baseball is not math. It's a combination of History, Sociology, Literature and Math. It's history and a player's place in it, can not be accurately deciphered based solely on the numbers.

    Go back a read what what was said about Blyleven during his career. How many times was he refereed to as a future HOFer? How many times was he even called an ace? How many opening day starts did he get, game 1 starts, game 7's? For all the talk about the 1979 World Series, people forget that he won one game out of the pen because his own manager decided he was only worthy of one mid-series start.

    If his own managers, organizations and teammates didn't think of him as a future HOF guy, why is he now?

    It's not right just to look at numbers. Stats don't tell you about impact, clutch performances and influence. I firmly believe for a true picture and assessment you have to look at a guy's reputation while he was playing. There are guys in the Hall with seriously weak numbers. So, then how did they get in? Could it be that the people who watched them play, both media and peers, saw them bring some kind of special qualities to the table that helped their teams win?

    Bert Blyleven is a 1970's pitcher being judged on 2010 criteria. There is a flaw there. If you are a believer in the "was he considered the dominant or one of the best players at his position during his career?" question then Blyleven simply does not pass that test.

    As someone who was an obsessed baseball kid during the second half of Blyleven's career, I never heard a single person ever say "I have to watch the game tonight because Bert Blyleven s pitching". I never saw a human being wear a Bert Blyleven tee shirt. I never saw a kid get excited because he opened a Topps wax pack and got a Bert Blyleven, or try and trade for his card for that matter. Isn't that the reaction that a true Hall of Famer is supposed to get?

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  13. Yeah Ok Blyleven lost a lotof games and gave up a lot of HR's. But look at the whole picture. He is 5th all0time in K's. Every one of the top twenty in this category is in the HOF or headed there for sure. 6o Shutouts! 250+ complete games. If you didn't go out of your way to see him pitch if you had the chance, then you're an idiot. I bet he wishes he was playing today. He would make tons of money

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  14. The HOF has been watered down by the veterans comittee allowing players such as Phil Rizzutto in the hall among others. Many of these old-timers were not good enough to even make big-league rosters nowadays. They never played against black, latino, asian or other foreign born players. It was an all-white league and we all know how much we exagerate as we remember the past. Bob Feller threw hard I'm sure but don't forget he was timed by someone on a motorcycle, not a radar gun. Who would you rather face, Feller in the bottom of the ninth after throwing 200 pitches or any modern closer coming out of the pen throwing gas. If you don't agree with me than you're old or dumb or both. Look at other sports where you can measure strength or speed. The four minute mile was a milestone, but todays runners consistently run under four minute miles.

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  15. @Russ Cress - I see what you're getting at, but:

    1. A lot of announcers referred to Jose Canseco as a future Hall of Famer while he was playing. So what?

    2. You're perpetuating the injustices of market variance. If you were a kid in Minnesota in the early '70s, hell yeah, you had a Bert Blyleven shirt and were excited when he showed up in your Topps pack. Just because no one in the big media markets EVER saw him pitch doesn't mean he wasn't one of the 5-7 best pitchers in the league for a solid decade. Looking back at how idiot sportswriters voted for Cy Young awards 40 years ago is illustrative more of the flaws in the process than players' impacts. Blyleven was, at worst, the 2nd best pitcher in the AL in 1973 and yet finished 8th in Cy Young voting. His being buried in minor markets on mediocre teams is the cause of his lack of being talked about, not his actual performance.

    3. If you want the Hall of Fame to stress the literal meaning of "fame," perhaps we should just restrict it to Yankees and Red Sox, so that Paul O'Neill can get in to the exclusion of Jeff Bagwell. He was obviously more famous.

    4. When looking at poetry and history and impact and influence, does Blyleven earn no credit for having what's universally regarded as the best curveball since Sandy Koufax? George Brett and Dave Winfield, among others, have said they hated facing him more than anyone else. That strikes me as a lasting impact. So does finishing your career third all-time in K's.

    5. Kids don't say things like "I have to watch the game tonight because ___ is pitching" and they certainly didn't do so in the 1980's when they had access only to their own team on television. They obsess about their team, and think everyone on their squad is among the best in the majors at their position. Basing Hall of Fame worthiness on your own anecdotal memory as a child is possibly the only thing more inaccurate and dangerous than leaving it to a bunch of sportswriters.

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  16. @ the first "Anonymous" above:

    Nice cherry-picking. You realize that at no other point in his 22-year career did Blyleven give up more than 24 homeruns, right? And that over his career he gave up 10% less homers than Don Sutton while striking out 15% more batters?

    Please peruse baseball-reference on Cy Young votes and come back to tell us they should be indicative now, 40 years hence, of anything. The fact that Cy voters didn't recognize how good Blyleven was is his fault and should keep him out of the Hall of Fame? It's generally accepted that he was repeatedly screwed in the ballots back then. Why should he be punished again for that now?

    You're also using the modern game to measure things like single-season loss leaders. Leading the league in losses in 1975 didn't mean you sucked and got knocked around for 6 runs through 4 innings a lot; it meant you were a workhorse on a team with poor run support, going into the 8th or 9th in losing efforts a lot. When you throw 18 complete games a year you're going to rack up the L's, especially on mediocre teams. That's how you take 17 losses three years in a row with a combined ERA+ of about 135.

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  17. His career record of an average of 14-12 per season pitched says it all.
    I watched every year of his career and NEVER once thought of him as a HOF'er. He was a very good pitcher but not an all time great along w/his peers of Carlton Seaver Gibson etc.
    Very good is not great and that's what the hall should be is great.

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  18. Also during Bert's career you never once thought this is win night for your team like you could w/Seaver Carlton and Gibson.
    Just because Don Sutton and Phil Neikro were elected and were just very good MLB pitchers doesn't mean you let guys in on what the worst guys in the HOF stats were.
    It should be for the very best not the very good.

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  19. Some of you avoided responding to almost all of the systematic deconstruction of your faulty reasoning. So to address one thing mentioned:

    All have been given tremendous evidence that what you "feel" a player might do is not very predictive of reality. Even during Bert's time he was recognized as worthy of better attention & awards. What you "feel" a player can do is effected by biases, & ANY pitcher on a worse team is less likely to win.

    Neikro had an excellent combination of peak & career value. Now if you need a player to be as good as Seaver, or Gibson at his peak-then sure, leave out both of them. But if so:

    1) Very few will agree with the extreme "small Hall" ideals. Because then all guys not at least in the top 1/4 of the HOF quality will not even be considered. I'll bet then you would need to leave out many whom you really would support.

    2) That points to a major mistake: Blyleven & Neikro are at least average in HOF pitching quality. When you consider peak & career value, for things that MATTER in showing how good you are. By the way, Blyleven's ERA + would be even better if he had better defenses behind him.

    3) This absurd comment: "Stats don't tell you about impact, clutch performances and influence. I firmly believe for a true picture and assessment you have to look at a guy's reputation while he was playing".

    Almost all who believe this just look at the WRONG, context dependent stats like W-L, RBIs, no adjustment for era or park or line up...To bolster their case, as Bill James had famously shown. reading the right stats CORRECTLY gives an exponentially greater picture of value than the wrong stats, or reputation, which so often is effected by conventional opinion, selection bias, fandom, not knowing what makes a real impact, & not adjusting for playing context & era.

    For example when we actually look at "clutch" performance over a meaningful sample size: it almost never exists. When we test how good a player was who happened to have the phrase "most feared" attached to his name: he was rarely near the very best guys of his era, adjusted for park, line up, etc...(Jim Rice).

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  20. @Anonymous from yesterday - I'm confused, are you a Mets fan, a Cards fan, a Phillies fan or what? At what point was Blyleven's team "your" team?

    Also, to echo Michael Felber: what does reputation tell us about actual quality? Some players are consistently overrated, some consistently underrated. I fail to see why conventional wisdom from years ago that hasn't held up to scrutiny should hold any weight in these matters.

    I hear you on the dilution point, but then again we've already got more than 2x the position players as pitchers in the Hall, the last three pitchers voted in have been freaking relievers, and there had only been three starting pitchers elected by the writers in the last 16 years since Carlton. It's not like it's some stampede of mediocrity. This will change in the coming years, I know, with at least 6 shoo-in SP's coming down the pipe.

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